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babelfish
Anmeldungsdatum: 20.03.2005 Beiträge: 41 Wohnort: hessen
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Verfasst am: 20. März 2005 14:08 Titel: the death penalty |
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I want to start a little debate about the death penalty here in(at?) the board!
I think you all know that the death penalty is still existing in some of the american states and there are also many executions.
a lot of people in america are in favour of the death penalty and they are argueing with quoteing the old testament: "eye for an eye..." which means, that if somebody killed a person he has to be treated the same way and must be executed.
there are also a lot of other arguments, but I do not want to tell too much at the beginning, because I want to know, what YOU are thinking about the death penalty!
please do not only write "I think it is a bad thing!" please also tell us why or why not! |
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MastermaN
Anmeldungsdatum: 15.04.2005 Beiträge: 2
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Verfasst am: 15. Apr 2005 16:43 Titel: |
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well, thats a very interesting question which you've opened here. in my opinion it would be better, that murderer and humans, which rape children or women, are killed through the death penalty, because they havent only destroyed one life, they have destroyed many lifes.
but on the other side the death penalty mustnt use if it isnt clear who the murderer is. |
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babelfish
Anmeldungsdatum: 20.03.2005 Beiträge: 41 Wohnort: hessen
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Verfasst am: 19. Apr 2005 15:36 Titel: |
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MastermaN hat Folgendes geschrieben: | because they havent only destroyed one life, they have destroyed many lifes. |
but what about the family of the murderer? I think, it's not their fault, that for example their son killed a person, but they probably love him and now they have to suffer so much because they lost their son on the electric chair!
Zitat: | but on the other side the death penalty mustnt use if it isnt clear who the murderer is. |
do you mean: "the death penalty should not be used..."? |
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S*nny Gast
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Verfasst am: 20. Apr 2005 19:41 Titel: CONTRA death penalty |
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Hey,
in my opinion the death penalty is not the right way. We dicussed about it in scholl a few weeks ago and we sum up a lot of arguements against the death penalty. One of the main arguements was that you are on the same level as the murderer. No one knows what´s after the death. Maybe it´s good for us. I think it would be harder vor the murderer to sit the whole life in prison! S*nny |
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Olli Gast
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Verfasst am: 24. Apr 2005 16:21 Titel: discussion |
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i think the death penalty is very questionable; i don't know what i shall think about it. We don't have any right to decide about life and death. the quote from the old testament is defenetly misused. i think in the bible it's ment in that sense, that we're only allowed to take revenge for something by doing maximally the same to somebody what he or she has done to us. bus in connection with the death penalty also this is questionable! |
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sigma Gast
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Verfasst am: 25. Apr 2005 16:50 Titel: |
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Well, I don´t know if i understood exactly what dp means. Is it, if someone had killed somebody by shooting, has the one to be kille by the same way? (Sorry, i know, that my english is terrible...)
If it is that waht i wrote, than i think that the death p shouldn´t be used. If somenone did sth wrong, you shouldn´t do the same mistake like he had done. That is if you would do the same and because that you are on the same negative niveau like the murder.
I hope i didn´t wrote too much stupid things.... |
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miri
Anmeldungsdatum: 23.04.2005 Beiträge: 3 Wohnort: Bayern
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Verfasst am: 26. Apr 2005 17:53 Titel: |
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Isn't it interesting that Venezuela was the first state in the world which abolished death penalty in 1863? I wondered a lot about this fact when I was told because I thought some European state would have been the first. But it is really appalling how late the "civilized world" has abolished it - France for example in 1981!!! I think there is no approximate cruel outrage because in my opinion no person can adjudge of life or death of another person - this is God's job! The worst problem of death penalty is the fact of killing innocent people! If you "only" imprison them you can decapitate them after finding the real perpetrator and indemnify them for loosing so much time in prison - but they are alife and maybe they can manage their life after that. An explanation for imprisoning them is this not - of course, but judges and the police are only humans, too, and they are making misstakes as well as any of us. This shouldn't be but you can't avoid it.
The last thing I want to say is that you can't find inhumanness and clumping on human dignity anywhere else!!! |
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Monsta Gast
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Verfasst am: 28. Apr 2005 20:24 Titel: |
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In our basic law is written that nobody has the right to kill someone. In my opinion the state hasn't these right too. For me "nobody" means that even a judge, a politician, the police, George Bush or Anorld Achwarzenegger hasn't these right. Do you really think it's ok if someone premission to kill a person just because he's a judge or a politician? They are just human beings - like me and you. They can make a mistake like everyone else. And would you forgive anyone such a mistake?! I think nobody could forgive them. Everybody who read the books of Michael Moore can get an idea of the persons who sit unblameabal in a jail for death penalty (I don't know how to say... I mean they sit in a "Todeszelle"). It will shock you! Because of that I think it's better if murderers, people whoe rape someone and so on get in jail for the rest of their life. It's bad enough if you cannot get free for the rest of your life. And if a judge or someone else make a mistake it's really easier to correct this.
I hope you will correct me, if something is wronge! ;-) |
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Gast
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Verfasst am: 28. Apr 2005 22:14 Titel: |
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Monsta hat Folgendes geschrieben: | in a jail for death penalty (I don't know how to say... I mean they sit in a "Todeszelle"). |
I think it`s "to be on death row" - that means that you are waiting for your execution in a prison.
That is also a big problem of the death penalty in America: there are a lot of people on death row and waiting and waiting for years!
so, if the people in favour of the death penalty argue, that it is much cheaper to send someone on the electric chair than to prison and that he/she does not want to spend the taxes on the live of a murderer, this argument can not work, because the culprits do not get executed immediately. no, they have to wait 10 ore more years!
in addition, I can also agree with you, that being kept in prison for a long time is the harder punishment than being executed.
and nobody deserves to be treated like that for one mistake he made in his life! we cannot decide whether a person lives or not. |
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babelfish
Anmeldungsdatum: 20.03.2005 Beiträge: 41 Wohnort: hessen
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Verfasst am: 28. Apr 2005 22:15 Titel: |
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the last post was mine...
forgot login! |
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