Small Talk - Seite 2

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

You're right! smile

There a not too many chances for a job even if you've the "Abitur" .

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

that´s true...but it´s alot of work to get it...but I´ve got time...

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

....not for my son, it's in April Augenzwinkern

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

much to learn... geschockt

I don´t think it´s easy to get it... "Zentralabi"?

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

....oops

Well, luckily he has got good marks (points) but that doesn't mean no studying for him unglücklich

...

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

@Ulli:
Well, the chance to get a job depends on the job you want to have. If you are studying law: No chance. If you are studying medecin: Good chance, if you are studying mathematics or physics: excellent chances -perhaps in different jobs, but physicians and mathematicians are searched nearly everywhere.

@ale:
What did you do during your practical work experience?
I had mine last year and I got the chance to go to the PTB (German equivalent to the American NIST = National Institution of Science and Technology, because I have an uncle who is working there). It was really great, too.

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

@MI: it will even get harder if the students will have to pay a fee on each term. A lots of young people with less money aren't able anymore /cannot afford it to go to university then. unglücklich

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

The problem ist that Germany is bancrupt, and I cannot preview any changes for the next years.

This is why are changing our good system to a really unfair system.
In my opinion, the universities should install the same system like the Americans. Many of the American universities are mostly privately funded, which means that former students are paying large fees (you might have heard about that).
If German universities were funded that way, the government would have more money for students without money...

MI

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

I don't know in what Germany's policy is leading into.... grübelnd

No, I've never heard about that system of American universities but it does sound better....smarter.

My son wants to go to university this autumn... grübelnd

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

Well, my father told me about this system. This is why some American universities are very rich. It does not always work, but sometimes. I think some German universities are trying to do this, now.
Getting money by asking former students.

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

I was at Provadis and it was very nice...Everybody was so nice to us....
It was cool to "work" there....A lot of fun... Big Laugh

trin · Gast

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

@trin:
I don't think so. The Americans already have 1 000 000 lawyers, they don't need more.
But if you are studying on some of the best universities over there, you will get a job very fast...

Cya
MI

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

hey,
I´m back again smile

.
I went to the USA for an exchange, so I had not much time to write here. The second reason is, that I had so much to do for school.
How are you?
I´ve found a new love: reading in english. it is so much fun and you can get books earlier than in Germany.

best wishes ( smile

)

ale

Ukkat · Gast

and that has a reason why you can get books earlier than in germany because most of the books we are reading are from english speaking countries and therefore they need to be translated first before we can buy them in a store.

I have lots of english books at home and it also happend that my mum and me bought exactly the same book but mine was in english....

josi · Anmeldungsdatum: 02.04.2006 Beiträge: 31

I love to read in english, too..

It may sound a little strange, but I think when I read a book from an english writer it is just better to read the words he atually wrote himself and not the translation (althoug most translations are nearly perfect)
I just got these weird idea that the book has more spirit and soul if you read it in the original version...
I am crazy I know smile

and it is of course a great help when you want to improve your english

oh and by the way: ulli you got a son?????

I always thought you were something like 25 geschockt

love josi

D4redevil · Anmeldungsdatum: 14.05.2006 Beiträge: 47

Reading English books is just more fun...
At the moment I am reading "the da vinci code", but I have also read all Harry Potter books in English....
I think I prefer English books because you have to guess some words that you do not know, which forces you to use your imagination more often Augenzwinkern

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

I want to read harry potter7!Does anyeone know when it comes out?
I love harry potter in english. When I was in America (for an exchange), I´ve read all books in english (without number 6 (i´ve got it already)). and now i`m waiting for the end.... Augenzwinkern

have a nice day

ale

ACH · Anmeldungsdatum: 26.01.2006 Beiträge: 117

I have not heard anything about HP 7 yet, so I expect it will not be out for a while. You have to remember that JK Rowling has to finish the whole storyline off in one book, so it will have to be a massive book.... thus I would not expect it for a while.

Anyhow, I wholeheartedly agree: reading books in original just adds that little extra - though of course, if the translation is very good, it is a close call.

Though sometimes there are a few things that are better in translation (e.g. I prefer the word "Elb" as opposed to "elf" to describe the mythical creatures in "The Lord of The Rings" but then overall the English version is still better.)

So long,
ACH

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

Well, as not even the title is known, nor anything else - we will have to wait at least one year, I guess, but I hope, she won't let us wait too long...

I, too, like reading English books (except those in old English. I don't really like the Elizabethan English of Shakespeare), but I think, if you want to know what the author is really LIKE, you must read the book in its original language, because even if the translations are close to the text, the words are influenced by the translators style, because there usually are many possible translations possible.

Until soon,
MI

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

I´ve read Othello of Shakespeare during my visit in the USA because the english class, where I was in, read this book during their lessons. It was pretty interesting but it wasn´t a really nice language. it´s really old and it sounds horrible. Big Laugh

Maybe I want to read "The da vinci code" in english. I´ve read it in German and I liked this book very much.Does anyone know how hard it is to read this book in english?Let me know it Augenzwinkern

have a nice day

ale

Yellow · Anmeldungsdatum: 05.10.2005 Beiträge: 27

Hi everyone!

@ale: I read the DaVinci Code in english and it's not very difficult. If you've read Harry Potter you should be able to understand Dan Brown's books without problems. (besides, they are really, really good)

I think reading english books in their original language is also more funny than reading the translations because you just can't translate some english jokes or the characters' way of talking properly, so some of the funny part is lost. I think one finds that often in the harry potter books.
So everyone, let's read in english!!

Greets Yellow

Jack · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 09.04.2006 Beiträge: 549

ale · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 19.01.2005 Beiträge: 237 Wohnort: Hessen

josi · Anmeldungsdatum: 02.04.2006 Beiträge: 31

Hey everyone,

does not belong to the whole "book-topic" just want to let you all know I am not dead (I have only been to new york and had the time of my life (uihh how cheesy!!!! and how true Big Laugh

))

However I am glad to be home again and it`s cool to see that nothing has changed here!!!! Big Laugh

Love,
Josi

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

How long have you been there? What have you done there?
I have only once been to New York (City) - only for three days. I guess you stayed there for a longer period?

Greetings
Martin

josi · Anmeldungsdatum: 02.04.2006 Beiträge: 31

Yes I´ve stayed there almost two months...

I´ve lived at my boyfriends house in Queens and also went to school there.

I had had a few problems here in germany I was really frustrated with my school and also had some family situations which I found really hard to handle, so me and my parents talked a lot and decided that I need a time out, to relax a bit and to get new power and so on...

That really helped me a lot all the people there were so friendly and were always there for me... and my boyfriends family was so nice (I´ve met them for the first time) that I didn´t want to leave Big Laugh

At first we had planed that I would stay there for a month but I liked it so much that we streched my stay ...

I don´t really think that I´ve improved my speaking or my style that much but I´m able to understand way more and I´ve learned thousands of new words... Big Laugh

What about you Martin, how do you liked New York?

I think it´s a cool place to live but it differs completely from what people call the "real america" like Texas or so on...

Greets
Josi

Shikyo · Anmeldungsdatum: 10.11.2006 Beiträge: 4

ACH · Anmeldungsdatum: 26.01.2006 Beiträge: 117

In all fairness to Yellow, I do not think he meant to imply that every book should be read in English no matter the original language. This IS the English board, so it is not too surprising that people tend to focus on English.

Anyhow, I certainly do agree that ideally one would read a book in the original language. However I would like to point out that there are examples of very good translations out there and we should be careful not to condemn reading in one's own language too strictly (for that is the feeling I get with some of the above posts).

Shikyo · Anmeldungsdatum: 10.11.2006 Beiträge: 4

englishgirly · Anmeldungsdatum: 13.11.2006 Beiträge: 1

I'm fine and you.
I hope anybody will answered to me.
bye

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

I'll answer to you! I'm fine, too.
I just had a really nice weekend with a lot of English Big Laugh

. And you?

chocolate4ever · Anmeldungsdatum: 09.04.2008 Beiträge: 180

oh why does nobody write anything here anymore??

well I was last weekend in London. Have you already been there? Do you like London?

Oh and I saw you were talking about Harry Potter 7.
Did you already read it?

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

You were in London last weekend? (place first Augenzwinkern

).
Yeah, I've been there I guess four times at least and I really like the city, I even prefer it to Paris, because the inner city of Paris is very much the same everywhere - London has a greater variety - and the outer city, well, it's a lot of satellite towns and new, high-rised buildings without heart...
And what do you say about the city?
Another very interesting city is Berlin, what do you say about that one?

@HP:
Of course I read it - as I also said, I've only read it in English so far and that'll suffice for me. For further reading about my opinion, you may also visit the web-z-forum, where you'll find a thread entirely about HP7 (but in German, of-course).

Greetings
MI

chocolate4ever · Anmeldungsdatum: 09.04.2008 Beiträge: 180

yeah I was with 3 friends 'cause 2 of them are going to move to the USA....

I like London. But I hate the tubes. They smelled so bad... so at the end I only went by bus to all places I wanted to go. And the tubes were very loud.

I was during my last summer holidays in Paris. I like it. the only problem was that I don't speak french. And because of the undergrounds I got many headaches.
But I liked most the LV-Shop in Paris. That was such a big shop!

Well I haven't been yet to Berlin. And it's not really a town were I really want to go to....

@HP: I read the 7th HP first in english...and than in german. but I didn't like the german translation. Don't ask me why!
oh and how long did you need to read it? I only read that you needed a day for the 6th HP.

abrazo,
chocolate

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

Well, a bit longer, I guess... two days? But if I had started in the morning, I could have finished in the evening.

chocolate4ever · Anmeldungsdatum: 09.04.2008 Beiträge: 180

oh okay.

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

I didn't like the German translation in the first place, so I didn't like HP at all until I read it during my stay in England in English.

Reading a book in its original language is always a lot different from reading a translation. Mostly, the translations are not nearly as good as the original text, however there are certain books, where the translation is better (although I couldn't name you one at the moment).

So I can understand why you don't like the German translation - I can tell you you are not the only one Augenzwinkern

.

Greetings
MI