Brauche Hilfe beim beantworten einiger Fragen :/

NoName--w-- · Anmeldungsdatum: 07.02.2007 Beiträge: 6

Hallo

Wir haben den Film "The brave new world of Gattaca" geschaut und dazu 2 Blätter bekommen mit ´nem text wo einzelne Passagen übernommen worden sind

Dazu sollten wir jetzt Fragen beantworten und dazu brauche ich Hilfe ...
Da der Text ziemlich "lang" ist ..würd ich den dann lieber schicken

Also bitte melden!!!!!!!!!

Ulli · Ehrenmoderator Anmeldungsdatum: 03.07.2004 Beiträge: 1389

NoName--w-- · Anmeldungsdatum: 07.02.2007 Beiträge: 6

Haha danke hab ich ;-)
Aber die wollt ich hier nich so rein schreiben sondern diese ebenfalls "privat" schicken

NoName--w-- · Anmeldungsdatum: 07.02.2007 Beiträge: 6

Könnte mir den nun einer Helfen bzw meine sachen nachgucken und kontrollieren?

Müsst nur gucken ob ich die Sätze richtig geschrieben habe und ob der Sinn verständlich is
Schicke die Sachen dann zu smile

Bitte

Lg NoName

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

Wieso willst du die Sachen denn nicht hier herein stellen? grübelnd

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Im Notfall könnte ich zwar drüberschauen - aber eben nur sehr sehr ungern (konsequenterweise gar nicht!), weil wir das ganze lieber im Forum klären würden. Dafür ist es nun einmal DA!

Gruß
MI

NoName--w-- · Anmeldungsdatum: 07.02.2007 Beiträge: 6

The brave new world of „Gattaca“
1.What is genetic engineering, after all, but preemptive plastic surgery? Make the child perfect in the test tube, and save money later. Throw in perfect health, a high IQ and a long life-span, and you have the brave new world of „Gattaca“, in which the bioformed have inherited the earth, and babies who are born naturally get to be menial laborers.
2.This is one of the smartest and most provocative of science fiction films, a thriller with ideas. Ist hero is a man who challenges the system. Vincent (Ethan Hawke) was born in the old-fashioned way, and his genetic tests show he has bad eyesight, heart problems and a life expectancy of about 30 years. He is an „IN-Valid“, and works as a cleaner in a space center.
3.Vincent does not accept his fate.He [...] dreams of becoming a crew member on an expedition to one of the moons of Saturn. Using an illegal DANN broker, he makes a deal with a man named Jerome (Jude Law), who has the right genes but was paralyzed in an accident. Jerome will provide him with blood, urine samples and an identity. In a sense, they´ll both go into space. „Gattaca“ is the remarkable debut of a writer-director from New Zealand, Andrew Niccol, whose film is intelligent and thrilling- a tricky combination- ans also visually exciting. His most important set is a vast office where genetically superior computer programmers come to work every day, filing into their long rows of desks like the office slaves in King Vidor´s „The Crowd“ and Orson Welles „The Trial.“ (Why are „perfect“ human societies so often depicted by ranks of automatons? It is because human nature resides in our flaws?) Vincent, as „Jerome“, geht’s a job as a programmer, supplies false genetic samples and becomes a finalist for the space shot.
4.The tension comes on two ways. First, there´s the danger that Vincent will be detected; the area is swept daily, and even an eyelash can betray him. Second there´s a murder; a director of the center, who questions the wisdom of the upcoming shot, is found dead, and a detective (Alan Arkin) starts combing the personnel for suspects. Will a computer search sooner or later put together Vincent, the former janitor, with „Jerome“, the new programmer?
5.Vincent becomes friendly with Irene (Uma Thurman) who works in the center but has been passed over for a space shot because of low scores in some areas. They are attracted to one another, but romance in this world can be dangerous;after kissing a man, a woman is likely to have his saliva swabbed from her mouth so she can test his prospects. Other supporting characters include Gore Vidal, as a mission supervisor, and Tony Shalhoub as the broker („You could go anywhere with this guy´s helix under your arm“).
6.Hawke is a good choice for the lead, combining the restless dreams of a „Godchild“ with the plausible exterior of a lab baby. The best scenes involve his relationship with the real Jerome, played by Law as smart,bitter, and delighted to be sticking it to the system that has grounded him. (He may be paralyzed from the waist down, but after all, as the movie observes, you don´t need to walk in space.)
His drama parallels Vincent´s, because if either one is caught they´ll both go down together.
7.Science fiction in the movies has recently specialized in alien invasions, but the best of the genre deals with ideas. At a time when we read about cloned sheep and tomatoes crossed with fish, the science in „Gattaca“ is theoretically possible. When parents can order „perfect“ babies, will they? Would you take your chances on a throw of the genetic dice, or order up the make and model you wanted? How many people are prepared to buy a car at random from the universe of all available cars? That´s how many, I suspect, would opt to have natural children.
8.Everybody will live longer, look better and be healthier in the Gattacan world. But will it be as much fun? Will parents order children who are rebellious, ungainly, eccentric, creative, or a lot smarter than their parents are? There´s a convert pianist in „Gattaca“ who has 12 fingers. Don´t you sometomes have the feeling you were born just in time?

Exploring the text
1. a)Describe the dreams and ambitions of the film character Vincent.
b)How does the society he lives in make it almost impossible to fulfil his dreams?
2. What does Roger Ebert mean when he writes that „human nature resides in our flaws“? Would you agree with this idea, or not?
3. How would you answer the question in ll.46-49? (àWhen parents can order „perfect“ babies, will [....]available cars?)
Meet the media
1.àSocieties in scinece fiction
According to Roger Ebert „perfect human societies“ are „often depicted by ranks of automatons“ and the best science-fiction films deal with ideas, not alien invasions.
a)Think of films and Tv series that support or contradict these points of view.
b)Are the societies in these films and Tv series utopian (i.e free, happy, well-ordered) or dystopian (i.e well-structured, yet depressed and unhappy)?

2.Gattaca-scene analysis
Watch the scene in Gattaca in which Vincent´s parents discuss the genetic characteristics of their secomd child with a geneticist (cf. Skills files, p.184).
1. a)Study the setting of the scene. What atmosphere does it convey?
b)How do the dialogue and character´s body language contribute th this?
2. What choices is the couple left with? How do they feel about these choices?
3. Imagine and act out the conversation they had before meeting the geneticist.

BEANTWORTUNG:
Text:
1. a) The dreams and ambitions of the film character Vincent.
Vincent dreams of becoming a crew member on an expedition to one of the moons of Saturn. He works as a cleaner in a space center but he dont want as a cleaner. He makes a deal with Jerome because he need DNA from an illegal DNA broker. Jerome was paralyzed but that is not so bad. Vincent need the identity from Jerome, because he want to make these expedition and so he gets a job as a programmer in the center.
One day vincent becomes friendly with Irene but romance is dangerour in this world.

b)Vincent is an „individual“ because in the society gives a lot babies who are born in laborers. But Vincent are born in the old-fashioned way, so is he „normal“.But he has bad eyesight, heart problems and a life expectancy of about 30 years. It is difficult, with a accident to get a „dream“-job. He need the right DNA, and that is the main problem. He need a DNA broker and it is dangerous. He makes a deal and so he had the right DNA to geht a job as a programmer. He is happy but it is a true tension. Either Vincent will be detected, because their clean the area everyday and an eyelash can betray Vincent or because of a murder, because a man is dead and the director from the center check everybody. And so is Vincent detected.

2.“human nature resides in our flaws“ (s. Aufgabenstellung)
He means that it is always a problem, that the human make things and these are often false. But they don´t have another way and so they are „stupid“ and make mistakes.
„Human nature“ is a concept. A concept therefor, that the humanroll off the mistakes from himself and say „that was the nature“
I Think that is right, extreme in the case from Vincent as „Jerome“ but it is very dangerous to make so an mistake because the chance is very big to detected this „deception“

(Dabei habe ich die Aufgabenstellung nicht so genau verstanden.. wenn man das viell. Übersetzen könne. bzw. man mir sagt was da von mir verlangt wird)

3.Question: When parents can order „perfect“ babies, will they? Would you take your chances on a throw of the genetic dice, or order up the make and model you wanted? How many people are prepared to buy a car at random from the universe of all available cars?

(Genau wie hier! Die Fragen ergeben für mich keinen wirklichen Sinn)

Media:
a.) Maybe so films, like mysterie series, sciene fiction or thriller. These are spezial tv-series, because there are the fantastic and perfect human societies and anythink is good. The life is good and everythink is perfect, because it get without problems. If one person, push a button and then it move. It gives a lot of tension, but the complete action is planned.

b.) The societies in these films are utopisch. I think the humans are free, happy. Everythink is beautiful. Obvious it gives problems, but it is planned. Gives a problem, is it again clear.

Gattaca-scene analysis! (kurz fassen, da wir den film nur 1 mal gesehen haben und die Szene noch nicht wussten)
1.a) + b) The atmosphere is very sad and unhappy. They are unsure but they want their second child. The body language are reserved and carefuk

2. / (nichts, da wir nicht genau wissen wie sich das Paar verhalten hat)

2. Mann= husband; Frau=wife)
H= Hmm... i have sruple
W= But why?
H= Yes, because our second child is than „perfect“
W= Yes, but it is good
H= Hmm... but Vincent is normal, he is ill but we love Vincent in spite of(=trotz) his accident
W= Yes but i dont want that our second child have this accident, too
H= It is understandable
W= yes darling and so Vincent need an brother and so is our decision okay

Frage: habe ich bei den Aufgabenstellungen den Sinn 1.verstanden? und 2.umsetzen können?Dh. die Fragen richtig übersetzt und darauf gezielt Antwort gegeben???

MI · Administrator Anmeldungsdatum: 22.01.2005 Beiträge: 1140 Wohnort: München

1. Das dritte Person-s hast du ziemlich oft vergessen!